Hornady 12 ga. 8-point Crimp Starter (HCS-12-8) is intended to be an add-on accessosry.

(Defense - combat loads tend to be found with a  6-point

crimp; however there are some exceptions)  

The 8-point tends to be for smaller shot loads used in upland game hunting & putting small game meat on the table.

We recognize that having an 8-point Crimp Starter may be a nice addition to the BASIC Kit which only comes with a 6 point. 

We now offer the 8-point as an individual add on item.

Here is the oppertunity to upgrade your BASIC 12 ga. Survival Loader and have the ability to crimp both the 6 point & 8 point hulls.